Is my graphics card working? I don't know...

[Thrip]

Can anyone help me? After buying a new Verto FX5200 graphics card for my PCI slot (I don't have an AGP slot) I don't know if it is working or not... :rolleyes: When I plug my monitor into the card's port the monitor is just blank (with a very faint blue bar at the bottom). But when I plug it into the usual monitor port it works, and when I look under the monitor properties in device manager it says the monitor is working from location "NVIDIA Geforce FX5200". Can I really be using the card if I'm not plugged into its port? Sorry in advance for being dim...

[Steevo]

You will need to turn off the onboard video in the BIOS.

Read you mobo's manual to find out how to do so.

[Thrip]

I'm afraid I don't have a mobo manual... but I have deactivated the onboard intel video card by using device manager... would that amount to the same thing? If not, are there any generic instructions for deactivating onboard video in BIOS?

[Thrip]

In fact, after removing the driver of the onboard video, I can't even see it anymore in device manager... All that is there under "graphics cards" now is the nvidia fx5200...

[ming]

change it in BIOS.

[Moonwraith]

Just out of curiosity.. my sis' PC has a PCI graphics, and onboard. I couldn't turn the onboard off (litterally, no option. Anywhere.) The only option i had in the end was to select to run dual monitor and select the 5200 as the main one.

Kaggy, but it works.

[Thrip]

Just out of curiosity.. my sis' PC has a PCI graphics, and onboard. I couldn't turn the onboard off (litterally, no option. Anywhere.) The only option i had in the end was to select to run dual monitor and select the 5200 as the main one.

Kaggy, but it works.

I thought of doing that, but can't figure out how to run dual monitor.:yowch: This is so weird - my display properties actually says "Display: Standard monitor with Nvidia Geforce Fx5200". But the monitor is not plugged into the card, just into its normal old port...

[Moonwraith]

Reinstall the drivers for your onboard graphics, then go into display settings. It'll have 2 options, (helpful here if you have 2 monitors, easier than swapping which graphics you use if you mess up). The option will be there for dual monitors, set desktop to show on the 5200, and that should do it.

Basically, my sister's graphics through the PCI doesn't actually work until windows is up (just incase this does this with you aswell).

Hope this works.

[LeeJend]

Better yet post the compuater and MB make and model number and we'll find a manual for you. Also tell what bios the MB uses.

Pressing Del or F1 during the boot process usually gets you into the bios setup. Varied by computer brand.

[ming]

Better yet post the compuater and MB make and model number and we'll find a manual for you. Also tell what bios the MB uses.

Pressing Del or F1 during the boot process usually gets you into the bios setup. Varied by computer brand.

Thrip doesn't know who makes the board, nor the model number. :(

[LeeJend]

Thrip

Download Sisoft sandra it is a free PC analysis tool. It may be able to read the MB make and model number from the bios.

[Thrip]

Thrip

Download Sisoft sandra it is a free PC analysis tool. It may be able to read the MB make and model number from the bios.

Okay, I got the Sisoft Sandra and it says I have a Fujitsu-Siemens Mainboard (is that the same as a motherboard?), no MP support, Model D1450, Version S26361-D1450, Serial No. 10482810.

The computer I have is a Fujitsu-Siemens Scaleo 400P, 2.0 Ghz Celeron, 256 Mb DDR-SDRam.

The BIOS I am using is Phoenix V4.06 R1.04 - but the plot thickens. When I updated to this BIOS from V4.06 R1.02 yesterday the computer would not boot,:cry: so I went into safe mode, disabled my FX5200 graphics card and re-enabled my onboard video. Now it boots (almost) normally so I can talk with you guys again!

[Moonwraith]

You know what? This is getting even better. My sister's PC is siemens-fujistsu, give my idea a try and see what happens.

[Thrip]

You know what? This is getting even better. My sister's PC is siemens-fujistsu, give my idea a try and see what happens.

I just figured out how to run two monitors, Moonwraith, and I tried your suggestion but I'm afraid it didn't work. Again, all I get from the monitor running on the card's port is a very faint dark blue screen with a black bar at the bottom. :cry:

[Moonwraith]

I just figured out how to run two monitors, Moonwraith, and I tried your suggestion but I'm afraid it didn't work. Again, all I get from the monitor running on the card's port is a very faint dark blue screen with a black bar at the bottom. :cry:

Hmmmm. That's odd, well mate - I'm all out of suggestions :( Short of checking the graphics card works in another PC?

[Thrip]

Hmmmm. That's odd, well mate - I'm all out of suggestions :( Short of checking the graphics card works in another PC?

I don't have any friends with computers (because I don't have any friends). :cry: Thanks anyway, I'll try to eke some more info out of the manufacturer...

[LeeJend]

Thrip

I read the manual (man does my head hurt, german/japanese pidgeon english, yuk).

There are no hardware jumpers to set on the mB for the video. You do appear to have a bios recovery switch which is a nice feature.

They rambled on a lot about the IRQ (interrupt request lines) for the PCI (expansion card) slots. It sounds like the video card has to be in the slot closest to the processor. If it is already there try it in another slot. And if you have any other expansion cards installed pull them out while trying to get the video working.

I'l go back into the manual and see if there is a bios setup section I missed.


EDIT
Reading their IRQ/PCI table I'm confused now so we shotgun it:
Try each PCI expansion slot. See if one works. Slot 2 may be the best choice.

[LeeJend]

Thrip I did not see where you installed or checked the latest graphic drivers. On the fujitsu site it has this page to select your driver updates. Note graphic is misspelled as grafic.

http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/support/downloads_1.html


Looks like the last one is for the I845 chipset you have. But read them all to make sure.

[Thrip]

Okay, I'll go ahead and try your suggestions... got to work now, but I'll get back to you in 24 hours. Thanks again for all your help...

Thrip

I read the manual (man does my head hurt, german/japanese pidgeon english, yuk).

There are no hardware jumpers to set on the mB for the video. You do appear to have a bios recovery switch which is a nice feature.

They rambled on a lot about the IRQ (interrupt request lines) for the PCI (expansion card) slots. It sounds like the video card has to be in the slot closest to the processor. If it is already there try it in another slot. And if you have any other expansion cards installed pull them out while trying to get the video working.

I'l go back into the manual and see if there is a bios setup section I missed.


EDIT
Reading their IRQ/PCI table I'm confused now so we shotgun it:
Try each PCI expansion slot. See if one works. Slot 2 may be the best choice.

[lancer]

Usually you'll you'll find the v/card settings under applications on your bios, have you just tried to go through all the bios options to see if the v/card option is there?

[Steevo]

The onboard video is usally listed as Video or Shared Video memory. It is that way on almost every mobo I have come across. I have rebuilt one PC where the motherboard chosen by the "computer guru" customer had onboard video that coudn't be turned off. Un-install the drivers for it, then use "Disable hardware in all profiles" in the device manager to keep windows from using it.

Then turn off the video support in the BIOS, if it is possible, if not reduce the total "Shared Memory" (not AGP share) to as low as possible.

[Thrip]

Thrip I did not see where you installed or checked the latest graphic drivers. On the fujitsu site it has this page to select your driver updates. Note graphic is misspelled as grafic.

http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/support/downloads_1.html


Looks like the last one is for the I845 chipset you have. But read them all to make sure.
Okay, I've moved the graphics card to PCI slot 2, and for the first time I am actually getting a signal from the card's port to my monitor. The first thing it says while booting is Verto FX5200 graphics card 128MB Ram - but then when it comes to the windows Welcome screen the monitor goes blank again. I can only use the computer in safe mode now. I removed the Intel onboard video through my hardware manager in windows, as I can't see anything about it in the BIOS setup screen. According to the motherboard manual, the settings for a PCI card in PCI slot 2 should be as follows:

PCI INT LINE PCI INTERRUPTS
1 (A) -
2 (B) -
3 (C) A
4 (D) B
5 (E) C
6 (F) D
7 (G) -
8 (H) -

But in the BIOS Setup under PCI configuration I only have the opportunity to assign numbers (3-12, plus 'disabled' and 'auto') to the eight lines. In other words - I'm lost, and have a headache from the German and pidgin English. Nevertheless, I seem to be making progress. Any more ideas?

[Thrip]

Let's try that again:
PCI INT LINE
1 (A)
2 (B)
3 (C)
4 (D)
5 (E)
6 (F)
7 (G)
8 (H)
and corresponding PCI INTERRUPTS
-
-
A
B
C
D
-
-

[Thrip]

The onboard video is usally listed as Video or Shared Video memory. It is that way on almost every mobo I have come across. I have rebuilt one PC where the motherboard chosen by the "computer guru" customer had onboard video that coudn't be turned off. Un-install the drivers for it, then use "Disable hardware in all profiles" in the device manager to keep windows from using it.

Then turn off the video support in the BIOS, if it is possible, if not reduce the total "Shared Memory" (not AGP share) to as low as possible.

I think I have one of those guru motherboards, Steevo, though I've un-installed the onboard video drivers and disabled the hardware in device manager as you suggest. In my BIOS setup all I can see about video or graphics is under "Advanced System Configuration", where it says "Graphics Aperture" which is currently set at 64M.

[Moonwraith]

I had exactly the same problem with sis' Fujitsu-Siemens PC. No way of finding a way to turn the onboard graphics off anywhere

[Steevo]

I think I have one of those guru motherboards, Steevo, though I've un-installed the onboard video drivers and disabled the hardware in device manager as you suggest. In my BIOS setup all I can see about video or graphics is under "Advanced System Configuration", where it says "Graphics Aperture" which is currently set at 64M.


I wasn't insulting your mobo or level of understanding, I had a customer that insisted on buying his own hardware as he thought I was going to screw him on it. I show all my recipts to people I build for.

Anyway, I didn't have a chance to look at your mobo manual online as I was at work. And I will not have the chance to tonight as I have a set of rotors to change and a exhaust leak to fix.

Sorry :dead:

[Thrip]

I wasn't insulting your mobo or level of understanding, I had a customer that insisted on buying his own hardware as he thought I was going to screw him on it. I show all my recipts to people I build for.

Anyway, I didn't have a chance to look at your mobo manual online as I was at work. And I will not have the chance to tonight as I have a set of rotors to change and a exhaust leak to fix.

Sorry :dead:

Hey, feel free to insult my mobo - I'm about ready to tear it out of the computer and frisbee it out the window. :mad: Anyhow, thanks for all your suggestions...

[FishBoy]

I thought of doing that, but can't figure out how to run dual monitor.:yowch: This is so weird - my display properties actually says "Display: Standard monitor with Nvidia Geforce Fx5200". But the monitor is not plugged into the card, just into its normal old port...
did you try plugging the monitor into the graphics card after selecting it from the display settings?

[Thrip]

I HAVE IT!!!!!! Like Moonwraith said, there is _no_ way of turning the onboard video off in the BIOS setup, and if you deactivate the onboard video in hardware manager and deinstall its driver, the blasted thing will reappear automatically during the next boot. The only way to get rid of it is to _right click_ on the onboard video icon in hardware manager and go to _deinstall_ ("deinstallieren", not "deaktivieren" which is the only option you get when you double-click on the onboard video icon). Then deinstall the new graphics card in exactly the same way, reboot and use the "new hardware" assistant to install everything from scratch.
I'm giving this information for the benefit of all computer-illiterate owners of Fujitsu-Siemens D1450 motherboards who are getting a stomach ulcer from trying to install a new graphics card (hey, there must be at least one other person like me out there). For everyone who's chipped in to help me out, THANK YOU! This forum rocks!

[Electronic Punk]

Yup, thats the way windows works.
Best to kill it at the source - I have to do exactly the same with my onboard soundcard as I use an audigy2 (although I am sure the onboard sound is lovely too)

[GeGe]

Hi - I have the same problem with that board BUT althogh I tried to follow Thrips way, the Intel Extreme Graphics 82845G is back again - is there any trick - do I have to deinstall in secure mode???

[lancer]

gege did you first try and turn off the on-board card in your bios, if not, no you should be able to deinstall in normal mode.

[GeGe]

Same like Thrips I did not find a way to turn off the on-board ard in the bios.
Thrips managed to deinstall it in the hardware manager, but I did not suceed :disappointed:

[GeGe]

Hi - It works now!!
I called Siemens-Fujitsu and they had immediately the solution how to set the Phoenix-Bios (PCI parity check: enable + boot options PCI).

[wind3D]

You don't click deinstall, you click Disable. I thought it quite entertaining seeing 2 pages of troubleshooting that has 1 simple solutiosn. :-)